User talk:CALR/archive1

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Explanation on E

Thanks for finally tidying up my flippant edit on E (mathematical constant) regarding the density of primes. I was a bit lazy in changing the original statement from "as early as" to "as late as", as I explained in talk:E (mathematical constant). Your note on the edit indicates that you probably didn't pick up on this -- there are in fact quite a lot of 10 digit primes. Cheers Andrew Kepert 09:22, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Following up your edit on my talk: user talk:AndrewKepert, it goes to show why people should not make value judgements when expressing facts on wikipedia:

Fact: roughly 1 in 22 of the 10 digit numbers is prime.
The original statement I edited read that "the first 10-digit prime in e is 7427466391, which surprisingly starts as soon as the 101st digit"
I edited this to read "which surprisingly starts as late as", given that the 1 in 22 means that in any random sequence of digits, the expected number of digits you have to pass to get a prime is 22 (glossing over the fact that we are not quite talking about statistically independent events here, but close enough not to worry me). To not get a prime after 101 random digits has probability 0.955¹⁰¹ ≈ 0.01 -- a 1 in 100 chance. My edit was based on this opinion: 1 in 100 is surprising (more precisely, that it is more surprising than the 99 in 100 implicit in the original statement)
Quite wisely, you removed any statement of opinion. WP strives towards npov, after all!
You commented that there are proportionally very few 10-digit primes - an opinion.
If I force myself to have an opinion on whether 1 in 22 is a proportionally few or many, I favour "many" -- after all, they are asymptotically of zero density. 1 in 22 is pretty reasonable odds - people bet their houses on less. But this is an opinion.
You say tomato, I say tomato. I think it says more about the person expressing the opinion than the fact itself.

This sort of stuff amuses me, but that is another opinion, and probably says much about me. Maybe I'm bitter about not getting the Gooogle job. 8-)

Andrew Kepert 08:24, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Kutchan, Abuta, Hokkaido

Hello, I notice that you moved the above article. The new title does not follow the romanization convention of Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles), so I'd like to ask that you move it back at your earliest convenience. Many thanks Fg2 04:13, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Double redirect award

For your help with the double redirect cleanup project you are given this award.

CfD

Hi there. Welcome to CfD. Some good cleanup work you've done today. However, do take note of the speedy rename procedure: there's a section at the top that allows for these to not clutter up the main body of the page. There is also a two-day delay which ought to be enforced, but the admin seems not to have adhered to that. -Splash 16:48, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Correction to that: speedy renaming can be done without delay, only speedy deletion needs 2 days. -Splash 17:12, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of HTML decimal character references

The precedent is not delete. "The result of the debate was keep Special Romanian Unicode characters, transwiki others." Please reconsider your vote. -- BRIAN0918 21:53, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Gilder VfD

Hi, I noticed you voted keep in the VfD for Eric Gilder (professor). Just wanted to direct your attention to the VfD's for the other related pages:

Four Freedoms Federation - (talk) - (VfD)
Province of the Carolanas - (talk) - (VfD)
John Lilburne Research Institute - (talk) - (VfD)

They are all vanity/non-notable/hoax/original research by the same user (MPLX), and rapidly speeding toward deletion. Just thought you may want to reconsider your vote on this page. --JW1805 20:16, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

CSD FanTasia

You might have waited longer than 10 minutes to put FanTasia up for speedy. So I created the redirect before the article, is that really a problem? The article has been created. I think these speedies should atleast wait a day to see if content shows up or not. Would you mind reverting your speedy tag? 132.205.46.179 21:24, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion The American Adventure

I've expanded the original text a bit. I agree that the original version was pretty thin, though not beyond saving. Opinions? ManoaChild 03:16, 3 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Q but no U words

I've been thinking about this. I'm a sometime Scrabble player and have been checking out the Wikipedia article on this list. I have a list of words here from Gyles Brandreth's "The Scrabble Book" (1984), and they make interesting reading. However, a word such as bathqol, defined as "a divine revelation in Hebrew tradition", which draws a mere 77 Google hits, (zero as an -S plural), along with the pedestrian qat (331K hits in singular, 13.6K in plural), qaid (910K hits in singular, but only 548 in plural).. these appear in the list, but in general these are very peculiar words. How much of the list is worth citing? If you want, I will cite every word in the list (there are only around 75, and I've already dumped these onto my computer, so this should be no big deal), to back these up. Bobo192|Edits

Agentsoo said: It would be good to cite particular dictionaries that the words can be found in, to convince the endless skeptics saying "they aren't true English words". I used Collins for the original list but it's been expanded since then. Any references you can provide would be excellent.

I can certainly cite from OSW, OSPD, and the NODE, I might have a couple of other dictionaries lying around as well (and we can probably provide interwiki links to Wiktionary for those words which can be found there - though I'm not sure how many this amounts to). And we'll have to invent some kind of system like you have for the pluralizations of words (putting a ~ after the word implies that it is a pluralizable noun, or similar). Let me know what you think. Thank you. Bobo192|Edits

Check out the list I've got goin' on now. I've even remembered to cite sources..! Bobo192|Edits

Please check out Q no U talk page. I've promised to add definitions as soon as I get around to it. Thank you. Bobo192|Edits

Mercedes

Mercedes is rather good, thank you! :) Func( t, c, e, ) 15:52, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

More on U-less Q words

Hi there. I promised someone I'd ask your opinion on this, just to set my mind at rest more than anything else.

Quoted from: User talk:Visviva:

Bobo192 said: The person who added those Q with no U words was me. I was working from a list I found in a book written around 20 years ago, which also contained the definitions. The worry was for me that as soon as I attempted to write the definitions, I felt myself infringing a copyright. I will attempt to write individual definitions of each word - but I personally am not happy with writing the words in lower case. Make no mistake, however, that this is entirely my problem as a semi-serious Scrabbler who assumes everything related to Scrabble he writes in lower case refers to the usage of the blank tile.

If you want me to rewrite the list in lower case, I'm fine with that. I will add the definitions as soon as possible. I will probably end up forwarding this message to Soo Reams, page co-worker, as well, if you are happy with that. Thank you.

Hello

I saw your alternate spelling for Gopuram. Thanks. --Bhadani 13:38, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

stubs

You might like to know that an easy accessible list of stubs is at WP:WSS/ST. Native tribes use the {{ethno-stub}} template. Circeus 16:23, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

rfc against user:jayjg

I have launched a rfc against this user for his censorship of the condition Aposthia from wikipedia. I feel this user has finally gone too far in his pro-circumcision stance -- to the point of eliminating a medical condition? If you would like to endorse it, please sign at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jayjg.

Thank you for your comments on this case. I would just like to clearify that I in no way launched this rfc because the user launched a vfd. In fact the vfd was not filed until after the rfc. The reason I want to punish the user is because of his extreme arrogance to redirect the page without any explaination on the discussion page or even anything meaningful in the edit summary. I took this to be vandelism. Also the user chronically complains about other users not co-operating with him yet he makes broad changes to the article without any kind of consensus. You can see additional evidence of this on our talk pages and on the discussion page of antisemitism, circumcision and other article. I just wanted to clear that up. Sirkumsize 16:59, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hauptschule

Nice work; just wanted to know where you got the information that this was part of elementary schooling? Lectonar 13:53, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I already changed the article accordingly; maybe the problem lies in the inherent differences in the school systems, but after reading the definitions of elementary and secondary school, it is per definitionem secondary; perhaps I'll drop them an e-mail. THX anyway Lectonar 14:00, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not feeling humble today, as I've been offered a admin-nomination just now by Grutness(which I declined for now), so I say: any award will do (as I already got flowers and a cake for translation work) ;) Lectonar 14:10, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Apothsia

Thanks for your note, Soo, and for your work on the article. Could you provide an inline link to a source, or a full citation if it's not online, for the claim about Lamarck? Cheers, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 17:39, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Soo, as you can see, I've changed my vote. I still don't think it warrants its own article, but this information should be added to foreskin. - Jakew 21:10, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Replied

I've replied on the Talk page. Thank you for your continued dedication to this article in its time of trouble. Bobo192|Edits

Barnstar

After having had a good look at your contributions:

Re: Disambiguation

Hi Soo. Re the dab I made to Ireland, I've consistently followed the same pattern on that type of link after reading all the linked articles a couple of times. I may be wrong, but it honestly wasn't just sloppiness.

I've usually used Ireland as a dab for an Irish person where there is no link to Ireland on the article, where the link isn't part of a list (when you match what's there), and where the context doesn't concern the history or dispersion of the Irish people (which is what that article concerns). I think the article on Ireland is fuller and covers the overall concept of Irish more comprehensively and I still think it feels more the sort of thing someone browsing Irish on most of these articles would naturally expect. But if you disagree, please explain because I'm still learning the art :-) ~ Veledan • Talk ^{+ new} 21:25, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You have me doubting now; it occurs to me that I am linking away from Irish people because that article is a bit too narrow at the moment. It would only take a really good expansion of the article though, and my links to Ireland would look like they wanted dab'ing again. Hmm, I'm off to go and find another dab page until I stop wavering! ~ Veledan • Talk ^{+ new} 22:02, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, it's me again

As above, after having thought about your words about african cities...migt I interest you in this: WP:CSB? Lectonar 09:36, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Current Disambiguation Collaboration

Are we going to make American a redierct to American (disambiguation)? This would really change the Current Disambiguation Collaboration at Dab's with links. I think before the collaboration is chosen next time, we should fix up any redirects first. --Commander Keane 07:02, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Page on the move

Agentsoo said: The page is on the move again. Your help would, as always, be greatly appreciated.

Where has the page moved to this time around? Just curious. Bobo192|Edits

13

Yup, I was just looking at the pages, and pretty much decided on p. 13. Danny 11:21, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

unicodify bot

See the reply on my talk page, or visit [1] -- Curps 19:45, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Antarctosaurus, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently-created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Yippee! My first appearance on the front page. Soo 11:13, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Current disambiguation collaboration

Perhaps we should suspend the collaboration on "American" and attack a less contentious project, at least until we iron out a consensus as to where "American" should point. -- BD2412 ^talk 14:37, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article James Winkfield, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently-created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

AgentsooBot

Please create a user page for your bot, describe its purpose, and how it is run (manually or automatic) and indicate a period that it is run (daily, occasionally, hourly, at a specific time). Note on the user page that you are the sole maintainer for the bot, and problems or concerns should be cited on your user page. Additionally, please make certain your bot is part of Category:Wikipedia bots. Thank you. --AllyUnion (talk) 06:28, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Skull (symbolism)

Neutrality tag was reapplied 12:31, 3 September 2005 by User:Agentsoo. This is a request that User:Agentsoo express a POV at Talk:Skull (symbolism) concerning the article's lack of neutrality as a guide for amending the article to suit User:Agentsoo. For guidance on how to make an article conform to the neutral point of view (NPOV), please see the Wikipedia:NPOV tutorial. (Wetman 21:25, 3 September 2005 (UTC))[reply]

DAB on Tatar

I replied to your commeont on my own talk page. Dalf | Talk 20:56, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I made the changes and put links to the discussion on Talk DAB with Links as well as Talk Tatars in edit summaries for all the changes. Plus I put an explination up at Talk:Tatar (disambiguation). Dalf | Talk 21:16, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dab's with links count

How did you figure out that there were 11,00 fixes to be made in the Dab's with links project, and now there are 6300? Your contribution to the project is monolithic. --Commander Keane 08:29, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Don't fear, I don't think you are a gaint stone, but rather an entity that that inspires progression (like in 2001), or like Uluru, an object of great cultural significance. Have you seen the Disambiguation WikiProject? Maybe you have but just don't feel the need to sign in your obvious particpation. --Commander Keane 12:13, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Skull (symbolism)

Hey, I noticed your comments on the talk page for Skull (symbolism). I noticed the issues you address, and started work on Skull (symbolism)/Revision. I think Wetman's essay is a great source of ideas, even if the voice and organization are anything but encyclopedic. The creation of the page is logged a little higher on the talk page if you want to read about it. I'm technically in the middle of writing the new version, but I'm also in the middle of college, so please feel free to take a crack at it. Anyway, the main point I want to address is to ask you not to mind the current form, in the interest of preventing an edit war with Wetman, whose writing and attitude are not really adjusted to Wikipedia (fine writing though it may be). Anyway, take it easy, and I'll let you know if I get anything really going on the article. -Matthew Cieplak ^{(talk) (edits)} 06:45, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of country topics

In answer to your question of July, they predate the category system, which was introduced in May 2004. Arguably they should be deleted now, as they do not get much attention. CalJW 02:44, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Roar!

lol, I just happened to stumble across your user page when I saw my cat's mouth yawning widely at me ;) Enochlau 13:22, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorely missed

We are missing you down at link repair, but your Dump 1 insipired progress updates live on in Dump 2. --Commander Keane 18:32, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Words containing QH

Please view the message I have left on the talk page and give your opinion, as I am interested to hear what you think about the matter. I've left them in for now, though. Bobo192 21:26, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV tag

Heya Agentsoo, could you remember to raise specific objections on the talk page of articles you believe to be POV? Sugizo currently has an {{NPOV}} tag but I don't know why. - Ta bu shi da yu 11:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers Soo :-) I appreciate this. Good luck with getting to admin status! - Ta bu shi da yu 00:15, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links/Guide

Please review. Cheers! BD2412 ^talk 05:24, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Diwali

Sources for Aggiosaurus

Hello, good work on Aggiosaurus, and thanks for the contribution. However, you forgot to add any references to the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. From what websites, books, or other places did you learn the information that you added to Aggiosaurus? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? You can simply add links, or there are several different citation methods list at WP:CITET. Thanks! — BRIAN0918 • 2005-12-4 20:02

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Xiaosaurus, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Next DPL restart

Still waiting for a suitable database dump. As seen here, the one started 2005-11-27 didn't finish. Also, the previous run went on to over 80% complete, so there's no big hurry yet. Bo Lindbergh 16:23, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Agilisaurus, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Collaberate sometime?

Hi, I noticed you are interested in dinosaurs. I would love to collaberate with you sometime. Spawn Man 01:59, 12 December 2005 (UTC) P.S. Thanks for voting on my Dinosaur FAC nomination....[reply]

Need Help

Thank you for creating an article on Guru Gorakhnath. However it can be noted that he is one of the navanaths and unfortunately there is no information available on wikipedia about navanaths which include aadinath, matsendranath, Gahininath, Gorakhnath, kanifnath, adabhangnath, jalandharnath, chouranginath, vadavlnath. Even the rituals of tantra are associated with the nath culture. Since long I am facing a tech. issue of inability to create new page. Can some one please include this material also. --Aravind Parvatikar 14:11, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

scrabble-stub

I am about to delete this stub template and the associated category, as per WP:SFD. The stubs will be moved to {{board-game-stub}} but as you expressed an interest, I thought I would give you a list of the category contents as it currently stands.

--TheParanoidOne 19:16, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

SI physics units for electricity, deleted?

Just curious about why Template:SI electricity units was deleted. The comments there say nothing. I recall seeing this template used in numerous WP physics entries.--Wjbeaty 20:03, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

IPA dinosaurs

Hi, I'm reluctant to replace the anon's ad-hoc pronunciation guides with IPA without having verification of the actual pronunciation. Most of those names aren't in the dictionaries I have available to me, and I don't want to just take the anon's word for how those names are pronounced. But you would be perfectly justified in removing the pronuns on the basis that they're unverified. --Angr (t·c) 17:17, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!!

Trashing Skull (symbolism)

Your wholesale reversion at Skull (symbolism) of uses of skull imagery drawn from a wide range of cultural contexts, but which are unfamiliar at your level has been reverted. I'm sure you meant to aid the Wikipedia reader in your action. Have you made any other contributions to articles concerned with cultural history, iconology or the history of ideas at Wikipedia? I wonder whether you wouldn't be interested in rendering your reduced version for the Simple English Wikipedia. --09:33, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Q's and U's and other related stuff

Soo said: After a bit of back and forth, this article that you contributed so much to has once again been significantly improved. There are probably still more words to find, but I believe this to be the most exhaustive and well-sourced list ever compiled. Just thought you might want to drop by and have a look.

Awesome. There are still all the words there that need to be there, but I'm loving this new reference list. Plus Merriam-Webster's is always real accessible, so that's a good push for the online-ness of it all.

This is definitely the best list I've ever seen, miles better than the one in the old Scrabble book (which I'll grab the reference for very soon), and the fact we've got good definitions is the most useful thing of all.

While we're mentioning naked Q's (so to speak), should we mention Saqqara, or even zaqqum as consecutives?

Incidentally, having added qhat, qhere and qhom, I don't think we can count all the words as being nouns any more. Perhaps that sentence needs removing.. Bobo192 . 22:04, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your question on my talk page. I'm afraid there's just something about the list that I'm unsure of, so I'm not supporting. However, as I have nothing specific to suggest and you have kindly taken on board my earlier suggestions I have withdrawn my oppose. All the best, jguk 21:17, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually

Actually, I know info on most of the dinos I make articles for from my head. Grand Moff Brian

YaY thanx...

...for defending me in by absence following my edit to Skull (symbolism)! 68.39.174.238 23:43, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

More thoughts

I've added some more on this 'ere page. Your backup would be useful. Thank you. Bobo192 . 19:53, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stop vandalizing

This message is about Skull (symbolism). Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. DreamGuy

Haha, you're kidding me right? Soo 21:06, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Skull (symbolism)

Mediation accepted, lets see if we can't build a consensus here! :) - FrancisTyers 23:58, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you outline your reasoning on the talk page please. - FrancisTyers 00:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The reasoning as to why you want the version you keep reverting to. Please be as explicit as possible. Thanks :) And sorry if I wasn't clear ;) - FrancisTyers 00:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your input so far. Could you help me out by outlining your problems with Wetman's version on the talk page? I've started and have got 5 points if you could add more that would be great. Feel free to comment on my points but could you indent your comments and leave a line before and after. Thanks again :) - FrancisTyers 03:56, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Closed

Case closed :) I hope that I've managed to solve at least some of the disputes infesting this page, here is a summary:

Ideally I would like the shorter version to be expanded to the length of the original, but only by sourcing all the material, and without the essayish style.

The style certainly needs to be fixed {{inappropriate tone}} tag has been added.

If that's not possible then the shorter version should just be left as is.

The shorter version was almost as bad as the longer version, it left out sourced parts and didn't flow nearly as well. The short version was not an improvement.

Also Dreamguy should be warned not to use or threaten to use his mod powers as a way to block people who support a different version of the article to his own.

DreamGuy is not an administrator so this point is moot.

Wetman should be advised against insulting other users.

Wetman has been advised not to make personal attacks.

If you have any further comments, please make them on my talk page or the article talk page. If problems arise again, feel free to re-request mediation with a different mediator (I won't mediate the same article twice - especially since I've made some edits now) or take it to Wikipedia:Mediation. Thanks again! - FrancisTyers 17:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quick followup, if you check the page now, there are more references, including one for the folk tale :) - FrancisTyers 17:42, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]